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10.11.08
Recent meetings with National Grid (NG) over the summer and early autmn have given a sense that a positive collaboration is now taking place. NG has agreed to undertake our additions to their study into the options for renewal of the Stalybridge to Woodhead 400kV overhead transmission line which runs through the Peak District National Park. NG has also taken on board design modifications proposed by us and others - Friends of the Peak District/ Campaign to Protect Rural England (FPD/CPRE), Peak District National Park Authority (PDNPA), for their new control building to be placed in the railway cutting at Dunford Bridge. NG has also undertaken to improve landscaping in the area.

21.2.08

MEETING CALLED BY NATIONAL GRID (NG) AT THE DOG AND PARTRIDGE, PENISTONE 21.2.08

Present:

Steve Knight-Gregson – NG

Nigel Heally – NG
Paul Macmanus – NG;

designer/operator of NG virtual reality display; architect for the proposed new equipment building at Dunford Bridge and 4 additional members of the NG team

Councillor Pestell representing Dunford Bridge Community;

Bob Bryan – Peak District National Park Authority (NPA)

Anne Robinson  – Friends of the Peak District/ Campaign to Protect Rural England (FPD/CPRE)

Jonathan Adamson; Andrew Darke – PLACE
 

NG had previously circulated papers

NG did not minute this meeting

Notes taken during this meeting: 

We were collected at Pennistone Station at 1.00 p.m. by Steve Knight-Gregson and driven by him to the Dog and Partridge. During the general conversation in the car SK-G said cut and cover (along the Trans-Pennine Trail?) was a possibility.

1. The Vale of York undergrounding uses 12 (400kV) cables.

2. 6 (400kV) cables are presently planned for the 1953 Woodhead Tunnel. Provision has also been made for an additional 3 cables to meet increased demand should they be needed. Demand has increased by 1% per year (6% in London) annually [for. . . ?].

3. An undergrounding corridor of 25 meters is needed for 12 cables with a construction corridor of 50 meters.

4. If a like-for-like ohtl replaced the existing one, in Longdendale, it would have a life of 60 to 80 years ie. at least 20 years longer life than the present pylons owing to improvements in paints/galvanizing.

5. 1 circuit has 3 phases, with a single core per phase. 1 circuit is carried on each side of a pylon. "Each single circuit is capable of carrying the whole power, if need be."

6. Direct buried cables will be in cement bound sand, which dissipates heat. Also, the cables are spaced in order to dissipate heat.

7. It would need 9-12 cables to underground in Longdendale. (With? 2 cores per phase, or "more copper.") NOTE the higher cost of cabling compared to ohtls is caused principally by the cost of copper.

8. The rating in the Regents' Canal400kV double circuit is different. It carries half the power [? of the Longdendale ohtl].

9. Andrew says the upgrading of the Stalybridge sub-station is in NG's literature.

Provision to carry more power - extra cables in the 1953 tunnel. Do the cables themselves carry more power, or are they like for like in capacity? Any like for like ohtl in Longdendale would have a longer life (80 years). It is an upgrade!!!

10. Andrew says, NG say, 9 metres width would do it -, i.e., ‘surface troughing’ along the TPT.

SK-G generously gave us a lift ftom the D&P to Huddersfield. On the way he confirmed something I had meant to ask in the meeting: that it would cost £18 million for a new ohtl between Woodhead and Dunford Bridge (over the high moors), and will cost £50 million to recable through the 1953 Woodhead Tunnel.
NOTE. The underground/ohtl cost ratio is less than 3-1!!

 

2.1.08   
MINUTES OF A MEETING ON 11.12.07 AT ALDERN HOUSE, 
Peak District National Park Authority (PDNPA)

Present:

Bob Bryan; Fiona Draisey; Gordon Danks – NPA 
Anne Robinson; Andy Tickle – FPD/CPRE

Jonathan Adamson; Andrew Darke – PLACE 

  1. It was agreed that the creation of a new footpath beside the river Etherow in the area of ‘the blacks’ in Upper Longdendale is problematic, as is tree planting in that area owing to its SSSI status. The desirability of protecting the area from the traffic on the A628 was acknowledged –natural regeneration on the north side of the river should be encouraged.
  2. All acknowledged the need for full consultation with National Grid over the terms of the study to be undertaken by NG into options for the Thorpe Marsh to Stalybridge 400kV transmission line refurbishment/upgrade. All three parties agreed they would contact NG asking to be involved in creating the brief for the study, as a matter of urgency.
  3. Trying to keep alive the potential of re-opening of the Woodhead rail link was seen to be in conflict with the possibility of using the route for power line undergrounding. PLACE asked that the rail option be dropped, given that there is currently no national or regional government support for it also given that there are two other cross-pennine routes which could be upgraded, if necessary.

PLACE believes the rail re-opening option, long cherished by FPD/CPRE, if not removed, has the potential to destroy any possibility for undergrounding in the Upper Don Valley and Longdendale. NG would use it to fudge the undergrounding discussion and an important possibility for the improvement of the NP would be lost, for 40-50 years.

PLACE thanks everyone for attending.

Since the meeting PLACE has contacted Ofgem over our concerns re NG and the Study. Ofgem will phone Steve Knight-Gregson at NG.

             
13.11.07 Dunford Bridge Parish council meeting attended by Peak District National Park Authority PDNPA, National Grid NG, PLACE and local people. Information was given on aspects of the NG work and PLACE mitigation proposals. PLACE has proposed tree planting, footpath upgrade and re-alignment within the National Park (NP.) PLACE's proposals were accepted in principal.

5.10.07 PLACE met with the PDNPA, NG, Campaign to Protect Rural England/Friends of the Peak District (CPRE),  to discuss next steps in PLACE's proposed mitigation work to be undertaken by NG. during its forthcoming renewal of cables in the Woodhead Tunnels (within the NP).
 

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